Distinguished Advisor Conference

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2017 DAC Agenda (PDF) 2017 DAC Speakers     Individual Application     Group Application

 

THEME: FINANCIAL ADVICE AT THE CROSSROADS OF CHANGE

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LEAD PARTNER

 

DIAMOND PARTNER

 

SILVER PARTNERS

 

                    

     

MEDIA PARTNER GRADUATE PARTNER MIMOSA PARTNER

 

 


DEAN COCKELL, MFA, MANAGER

 

DAC REPORT SPONSOR CONTENT DIRECTOR

To participate call 1-866-953-4769 or email registrar@knowledgebureau.com

Sunday, Nov 05

SUNDAY NOVEMBER 5TH REGISTRATION AND WELCOME EVENTS


RESERVE NOW UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30 FOR EARLY REGISTRATION OFFERS AND RESERVE YOUR TABLE OF SIX DELEGATES AT LOW, LOW TUITION FEES.

Individual Registration Table of Six Registration

Join us Nov 5-8th at the Delta Grand Resort in beautiful Kelowna. Rooms are available on a first come first serve basis only through Knowledge Bureau at the rate of $159 per night plus taxes.


REGISTRATION AT THE EVENT

 

Pick up your name badge and conference materials.

 

12:00 PM – 5:00 PM


SUMMERHILL PYRAMID WINERY TOUR AND LUNCH

 

Arriving Early? Get right into the wine country at Summerhill Pyramid Winery!  Taste their amazing wines and see the replica of the Great Pyramid of Egypt. Summerhill is the largest certified organic vineyard in Canada and was named ‘Canadian Wine Producer of the Year’ in 2009 by the International Wine & Spirits Competition in London, England. Enjoy the great local and creative cuisine of Summerhill’s Sunset Organic Bistro overlooking beautiful Okanagan Lake.

 

Cost: $110 per person+ GST (Beverages at lunch are extra)

 

First Come, First Served!
Spots are limited so be sure to register early!

Itinerary:
1:00 Depart the Delta Grand Resort
1:30 Summerhill Pyramid Winery – wine tastings
2:00 Summerhill Pyramid Winery – 2 course lunch
3:45 Tantalus Vineyards – wine tastings
5:00 Drop off at the Delta Grand Resort


DAC FIRST TIMER’S WELCOME RECEPTION

 

Calling all first-timers’ at DAC! Please join us for this very special welcome celebration. West coast meets Prairie Folk meets central Canada meets East coast! The DAC is all about great education and great networking and we want to make sure you have chance to shine at both! This is a great way to become part of the DAC family, hosted by Knowledge Bureau’s Sr. VP of Business Development, Al Jacks.


Dress:  Business Casual

Shuswap Room 6-7 PM


DAC OPENING RECEPTION:
CELEBRATING TOP CANADIAN FINANCIAL PROFESSIONALS

 

Delicous Canadian cuisine & shoe-tapping music from all across our beautiful country will welcome you: think fabulous West Coast Salmon, Fantastic Prairie Beef, Poutine Bar, Mini Maple Donuts.   This is your opportunity to meet, greet and build new relationships with the DAC150 attendees, including our renowned speakers and educational partners from across Canada.  You will also meet the winners of the DAC Young Advisors Awards and the esteemed graduates of the Master Financial Advisor and Distinguished Financial Advisor Programs.


Dress: Business Casual

Shuswap Room 7-9 PM

Your Hosts:


Title Partner:


Program Director:


To participate call 1-866-953-4769.

Individual Registration

 

Table of Six Registration

Monday, Nov 06

DAY 1:  MONDAY NOVEMBER 6TH  


THEME: VISIONARY LEADERSHIP AT THE CROSSROADS OF CHANGE


ENJOY THE SCRUMPTIOUS CANADIAN HOT BREAKFAST BUFFET EACH MORNING!

For Attendees and Paid Guests

These sessions brought to you by:


WELCOME AND OPENING COMMENTS
MASTER OF CEREMONIES

MICK KELLY - MBA, CFP, PFP
Performance-orientated Financial Services Team Builder, Leader and Motivator


THE IMPACT PATHWAY:

A NEW VISION FOR ADVICE AT THE CROSSROADS OF CHANGE

 

Rarely has there been a more challenging, yet exciting era in the tax and financial services.  Evelyn Jacks kicks off the DAC150 with her thesis on a new Impact Highway and shares ways to develop a new vision and passion for the dramatic economic, demographic and tax changes that will affect your clients the most in 2018 and beyond.    She will make a compelling case for a new value proposition focused on leadership and collaboration.  Why?  The norms in tax planning for family businesses, pre-retirees and investors are changing and the news may not be good for your high net worth clients.   In her easy-to-understand fashion, Evelyn will explain the longer-term effect of these changes and how manage alternatives with stealth and professionalism.  The strategy is to blend experience, mentorship, and the renewed energy of today’s new advisors and it’s critical that it is put into place now.

 

EVELYN JACKS, MFA™,
DFA-Tax Services Specialist™
President & Program Director


REGULATING TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGE:

STATUTORY BEST INTEREST or FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION or MORE?

 

As a member on the Expert Committee to Consider Financial Advisory and Financial Planning Policy Alternatives, Paul Bates has played a key role in concluding definitively that financial planning and the giving of financial advice should be regulated in Ontario, and in the process, has served as a key player in the crossroads of change.

 

In this riveting session, he examines the role of the financial advisor at the crossroads of change:  what’s at stake from a regulatory point of view and more importantly how dramatic changes that are coming to the financial services industry will impact the framework within which advisors work.

 

Canadians looking for sound financial advice have more information than ever before, but more worries at the crossroads of change:   privacy, what “truth” is, what kind of advice they need. Find out how to recalibrate your practice and build equity in response, one deep relationship at a time, to be the absolute go-to, most trusted advisor, no matter what is needed and despite transformative regulatory change.

 

The Rev. Dn. PAUL K. BATES,
M.T.S., FCPA, FCMA, CMC.


PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT:

HOW TO BUILD STRATEGIC BALANCE AT THE CROSSROADS OF CHANGE

 

What is “long term” investing at the crossroads of change?  When is the housing bubble going to burst?  Why are we predicting slow growth, post-Trump, when the numbers on the markets keep rising?  Where is the yield for retirees?  When will interest rates rise?  These are questions your clients want answers to, as uncertainty reigns.  Remaining calm is important:   there is, in fact, room to build balanced portfolios.  Find out why in this insightful presentation.

 

BROUGHT TO YOU BY TITLE PARTNER:

 

PHILIP PETURSSON
Chief Investment Strategist
Manulife Investments


MIMOSA BREAK


Test Your Financial Trivia Skills for a chance to win Great Prizes

Brought to you by:


INNOVATE OR DIE:  HOW “LEADAPRENEURS” ARE TRANSFORMING ECONOMIES

 

Today’s stark business reality is this: 40% of major companies will not survive the digital disruptions of the next 5 years.  The result?  People will continue losing jobs that will never come back again.  In fact, what works is and who will do it are the key issues you’ll need embrace to understand your clients’ economic future. 

 

A new challenge emerges:  how to scale up for the demanding, new, customized solutions your next new clients will expect to their complex, time consuming problems. They are great people who may have been forced into early retirement, enthusiastic entrepreneurs with tax problems, Millennials who have been downsized, investors who are wary of next steps.

 

As disruptive innovation accelerates, only one question matters to your clients. . .can you innovate fast enough to help them revive their financial futures?  Join the ranks of “new rebels”:  the “smart-creatives” who see the future by keeping disruption on their radar.

 

JAN BARTSCHT
Co-Founder Leadepreneur


FAKE NEWS AND THE WAR ON TRUST:
How a Focus on “Invested Clients” Can Help You Beat Disruption


The media today is challenged by disintermediation:  the elimination of the “middleman” in providing much-needed services.  As a result, professional journalists must reconsider their role with their audience; this, against a backdrop of grave risk to what can be trusted.  Is this true of the financial services as well?  To what extent has each industry been complicit in its own demise?  Is it too late to turn things around?

 

While the “democratization” of a multiplicity of services in today’s era of disruption has resulted in a weakening of trust, there has also been a boomerang effect:  the rise of outstanding specialists and authorities who provide deep and important expertise.  But who will pay for that? 

 

Brought to you by:

 

KIRK LAPOINTE
VP Audience & Business Development at Business in Vancouver.


AFTERNOON AND EVENING NETWORKING EVENTS

What’s more Canadian than Curling, Fine Wine and Fine Food?


CELEBRATE CANADA’S WINTER PASSION:
A CURLING FUNSPIEL!!!


Network with other attendees as you enjoy lunch and a fun afternoon of curling at the Kelowna Curling Club! No need for experience, we will have instructors on hand to teach you the basics. There will be teams and a funspiel style tournament including prizes.

 

KELOWNA CURLING CLUB
Reserve Now - First come, first served! This is a FREE EVENT!

Spots are limited so be sure to register early!

 

Itinerary:
1:00 Depart the Hotel, walk to Curling Rink
1:15 Lunch: Lasagna, Salad, Buns
2:00 Curling Instruction and tournament
4:00 Return to the Delta Grand Resort


THE DAC150 PRIVATE WINE AND FOOD PAIRED CULINARY CLASS AT MISSION HILL FAMILY ESTATE


Designed for both the novice cook and culinary connoisseur, Chef prepares classic dishes in their state-of-the-art Culinary Theatre where they readily share their expert knowledge about ingredients and techniques that are essential to the creation of great food. From kitchen staples to epicurean curiosities, come and enjoy their passion and craft. Each three-hour session is interactive, informative and delectable.

 

Reserve Now – It’s First come, first served!
Spots are limited so be sure to register early!

 

Cost:$199.50 per person

 

Itinerary:
5:00 Depart the Delta Grand Resort
6:00 Mission Hill Family Estate –wine and cellar tour, private wine and food paired culinary class with meal
9:45 Depart Mission Hill Family Estate
10:05 Drop off at the Delta Grand Resort


OR MAKE PLANS TO JOIN YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR DINNER AT ONE OF KELOWNA’S GREAT RESTAURANTS

 

If a wine tasting and culinary class are not for you, not to worry we have other options available on site, stay tuned as we offer some other choices for a great evening in Kelowna.

Tuesday, Nov 07

DAY 2 TUESDAY NOVEMBER 7TH


THEME:  BUILDING WEALTH UNDER RAMPANT CHANGE


GUEST MASTER OF CEREMONIES AND
DISTINGUISHED AMBASSADOR-AT-LARGE


DEAN COCKELL, MFA
Manager, Portfolio Strategies


IS YOUR STYLE UNIQUE OR CONVENTIONAL? Differentiate Yourself Through Private Debt and Private Equity.

 

Few Canadians have a high appetite for risk, equity/fixed income markets are volatile, and high net worth clients want something unique.  To continue to succeed, advisors will need to provide new services that clients could truly benefit from.  Today, pension and endowment funds allocate more to private investments than they do to publicly traded securities, yet advisors continue to recommend conventional investments to their clients.  An allocation to Private Debt & Private Equity belongs in many portfolios and will too be a commodity in the years to come.  Help your clients while capitalizing on an opportunity before the masses do.

 

DANIEL POPESCU,
President And CEO, 
Harbourfront Wealth Management


PAIN FREE PROSPECTING: 
STEPS TO RECREATING YOUR WORLD CLASS PRACTICE

 

If your “here” is someplace you don’t want to be, or your “there” is undefined, you may simply be stuck, and losing ground. Refocusing on your sustainable competitive advantage can be a game changer.  But just how do reinvigorate your business plans – especially your prospecting efforts – into well-orchestrated, easy to implement, step-by-step processes?  To take on this quantum leap requires a critical decision:  can I grow a business that has market value?   Learn to turn a significant corner towards maximum impact in your business relationships from the acclaimed author of  The Financial Advisor’s Guide to Excellence:  Becoming a World-Class Practitioner (Carswell, 2015), instructor of the Personal Financial Management  course in the MBA Program, at Schulich School of Business, and Regional Director with Investors Group.

 

 

DAN COLLISON, B.A., CFP, TEP

Regional Director, Investors Group


THE TFSA: A POWERFUL TOOL FOR HNW RETIREMENTS

 

CRA is looking to collect $75 Million in taxes and penalties on mistakes investors are making in their TFSAs.  It’s a good time to discuss the legitimate rights to investment diversity within the TFSA.  One of them is the use of Structured Mortgage Investments, especially for retirement savings.   

 

Learn a new strategy for restructuring the entire family balance sheet to bind RRSP, RRIF, and LIRA savings together with TFSA(s) using a “Personal Mortgage” investment structure to facilitate the transfer of registered assets into Tax Free Savings with no tax leakage.  The result is a tax free retirement.  For wealthier clients who do not need RRIF income in their own lifetime, the TFSAMaximizer strategy can also efficiently transfer RRIF assets into the TFSAs of children and adult grandchildren.

 

There is no more powerful tool for retirement or estate planning than the TFSA when invested strategically.  Learn how in this interesting session.

SANDY AITKEN
President & CEO
M-Link Mortgage Investment Corporation


PLANNING FOR FUTURE HEALTH CARE NEEDS

Canadians today are living longer than any generation in history. However, with that comes the following reality: more and more of your clients may be faced with declining health challenges. How many of them have planned for that ‘What if’ day should they get sick?


From housing and finances, to family and planning, it is becoming increasingly difficult for Canadians to manage through all of these issues. As their advisor, you have an opportunity to help them by bringing up the discussions and proactively planning earlier in your meetings. In this important session, think about the crucial decisions your clients

GORD MURRAY
Director, Value-Add Programs, AGF Investments Inc.


MIMOSA BREAK
Test Your Financial Trivia Skills for a chance to win Great Prizes


DISTRACTION IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY:  HOW TO
THINK LIKE A DETECTIVE AND REDEFINE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE

 

If you are serious about being successful in the insurance industry going forward, it’s time for Big Change. The prescriptive sales process just doesn’t work anymore;  neither does the current trend in client segmentation.  In this bold session, you’ll understand why the insurance industry has been focused on the wrong things and what’s really driving opportunity.  You will learn the secrets to re-igniting your referral network and how to once again become the driving force for important risk management that families are missing out on.  What’s the new way?  Hint:  learn to think like a detective – investigate, document and formulate!

 

TODD HYNES
VP Sales, ivari

SILVER PARTNER


DEEPEN CLIENT ENGAGEMENT: 
INNOVATIVE PRACTICES FROM AWARD WINNING ADVISORS

 

In this outstanding session, you’ll be inspired by top peers including this years' winner Doug Nelson who are running their business in a more innovative and exciting way by deepening client engagement to drive their success.  Their award-winning energy and experience will leave you refreshed and excited, too as Moderator and Innovator Braydon Scully draws out the inspiration in their accomplishments. 

 

Braydon whose extensive experience in the investment industry as a Mutual Fund Analyst and as an IIROC Branch Manager at one of the major Canadian Investment dealers, has uniquely prepared him to understand and work with firms to further the distribution and utilization of managed Investment solutions in their businesses.

 

BRAYDON SCULLY, SR. VP 
Investment Platform Division

DOUG NELSON
President, Nelson Financial consultants

DIAMOND PARTNER


AFTERNOON NETWORKING EVENTS

 

 

JOIN IN THE FUN AS A PARTICIPANT, A SPECTATOR or A DISTINGUISHED
GUEST GRADUATE!


DISTINGUISHED ADVISOR WORKSHOP
LEAN INTO CHANGE:  HOW TO BE A LEADAPRENEUR! 

1:00 – 3:00 PM
A Special Working Lunch For Knowledge Bureau Graduates & Designates

 

EARN 3 ADDITIONAL CE CREDITS

 

Of interest to the curiously visionary delegates in the DAC audience who want to learn more about passionately leaning into change, this in-depth workshop will help you embrace a culture of change in your organization and revitalize your strategic vision for your business. Find out how to

 

  • Be a bold and visionary disruptor
  • Understand how to change your culture and lead your circle of influence towards transformative change. 
  • Understand new spheres of entrepreneurship, innovation and how women in business can be engaged and empowered to achieve their career goals.
  • Learn a scientific approact to explaining disruption
  • Hear experiential case studies and detailed real-world examples

 

This workshop is a special bonus event for Knowledge Bureau graduates and designates with special guest passes for aspiring business builders. 

 

RSVP required. 

 

EXCLUSIVE LUNCHEON SPONSOR AND CO-HOST:
Dean Cockell, MFA, Manager Portfolio Strategies

 

JAN BARTSCHT and JESSICA MACIAS
Co-founders, Leadapreneur


THE GRADUATE CHAMPAGNE RECEPTION
FOR MFA/DFA-SPECIALIST DESIGNATION GRADUATES AND UNDERGRADUATES:
BY-INVITATION-ONLY EVENT!


This champagne reception honors the achievement of MFA™ & DFA-Tax and Bookkeeping Specialist Designations™.  Both grads and under-grads of these prestigious programs are invited to come and applaud about their peers’ achievements, share stories and hear what’s coming up for them at Knowledge Bureau. 

5:00 – 6:00 PM

 

EXCLUSIVE EDUCATIONAL PARTNER AND CO-HOST:
Dean Cockell, MFA, Manager Portfolio Strategies

 


IT’S FOR ALL OF US FUN MEISTERS!
THE DAC150 GALA BIRTHDAY BASH

 

JOIN OUR COMEDY AND MUSICAL EXTRAVAGANZA:
FANTASTIC CANADIAN TALENT AND A MUSICAL JAM FEATURING STARS OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES

 

Our Final night Gala will take place in a unique venue, an old apple packing plant! The Laurel Packing House is located across the street from the Delta Grand Resort and is a unique location that highlights the area’s history. You’ll enjoy fabulous cuisine – a sit down dinner featuring flavors of the region and fabulous entertainment.  We will top if all off with our own DAC150 garage band – now just how Canadian is that??

 

Dress: Go all out in your favorite Canadian Theme or simply wear something stunning in red and white!

 

Cocktails: 6:30- 7:00 PM
Dinner and Entertainment: 7:00 10:30 PM

SPECIAL GUEST HOST ACTRESS AND COMEDIAN

One of Canada’s Top Comedians Now Living in Los Angeles

 

FROM REGINA - RAPPER DAN INNES

 

AND FROM PETERBOROUGH, SPECIAL GUEST MUSICAL STAR KIM POLLARD

Canadian All-Star Female Jazz Vocalist of the Year

 

Wednesday, Nov 08

DAY 3 WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 8TH


THEME:  STEWARDSHIP - RELATIONSHIPS IN THE CROSSROADS


GUEST MASTER OF CEREMONIES AND
DISTINGUISHED AMBASSADOR-AT-LARGE

MICK KELLY - MBA, CFP, PFP
Performance-orientated Financial Services Team Builder, Leader and Motivator


NOTCH UP YOUR EXTREME KNOWLEDGE:   NEW TAX MATTERS FOR HNW CLIENTS WITH PRIVATE CORPORATIONS

 

Recent tax changes which have clamped down on traditional planning with corporate owner-managers and professionals.  They must be understood to bring “extreme knowledge” to your best clients.  Why?  Because family wealth is under unprecedented attack from rising taxes and this gives you the opportunity to sharpen up your value proposition.

 

In this informative session, find out how complex tax reform proposals that are poised to affect planning for clients with small business corporations, professional practices, and U.S. assets.

 

Then reflect on your important role in deciphering the impact of these changes.   Extreme knowledge makes good business sense.  Stand out against your key competitors in the cross roads of change, where the new mantra is simple:  no value proposition; no survival.

 

KIM MOODY
Director, Canadian Tax Advisory
Moodys Gartner Tax Law LLP


HOW TO BE A HIPSTER:
CREATE MORE AND BETTER BUSINESS BY BECOMING ANNOYINGLY AUTHENTIC.

 

Are you fluent in the present?  Everything is convenient and in abundance online, and the world is moving away from bricks and mortar and 3 piece suits to online check-outs.  We may even think that Knowledge Authorities, like professional advisors, will become obsolete soon.  But the opposite is true!  Today’s Hipsters do want financial advice, just not from their Dad or Mom!

 

Now is the time to rediscover how your unique skills, interests, talents and experience beyond the financial industry can help you better relate and a trustworthy and essential part of the new generation of money makers.  In this entertaining session, find out to “get more real” about your WHY and HOW, better understand who you want to work with and who you don’t, and lean into your uniqueness and authenticity as a branding technique.

 

AISHA ALFA
Comedian, Life Coach


YOUNG ADVISORS PANEL - WIRED TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS:
REPLACE ROBOTS WITH HUMANS

 

Moderator Barbara Foy-Pilchner, Vice President, National Accounts, Manulife Investments, is joined by this year’s recipients of the Distinguished Young Advisors Award – Jonathan Earle and Joseph Alfie - who will challenge DAC delegates to think deeply about the Financial Advisory Services of the Future from the view of an Under 40 Advisor with their thesis:  Replace Robots with Humans to build your business to the next level by doing more of the right things.

 

BROUGHT TO YOU BY:

      

BARBARA FOY-PILCHNER
VP, National Accounts
Manulife Investments

 

FEATURING THE
DAC YOUNG ADVISOR AWARD WINNERS:
  JOSEPH ALFIE AND JONATHAN EARLE


MIMOSA BREAK
Test Your Financial Trivia Skills for a chance to win Great Prizes


INDUSTRY 4.0 ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE:
THE REAL NEWS ON THE IMPACT OF A.I. ON YOUR WORK

 

Unlike the Industrial Revolution and the computer revolution, the A.I. Revolution is not just taking certain jobs (artisans, personal assistants who use paper and typewriters) and replacing them with other jobs (assembly-line workers, personal assistants conversant with computers). Instead, it is poised to bring about a wide-scale decimation of jobs — mostly lower-paying jobs, but some higher-paying ones, too.

 

These changes will dramatically affect the demand for the advice you give now –from investment choices and the tax impact of severance packages, for example - and more importantly, on retirement planning and the stewardship family wealth from one generation to the next.  Learn insights that will help you answer questions and promote strategic discussions with your clients:  What happens to people?  What’s their role? How do they make money?  How do this invest and save? Consider how these changes will be the impetus to improve the quality of advice professionals give and in the process, their value proposition.

 

MALCOLM MCRAE
IT Director, VALE


EMBRACING THE CROSSROADS OF CHANGE:

PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVES FROM A BAY STREET VETERAN

 

What a future we have in Canada!  Babies born today are the luckiest in all of history.  The wonder of change in our safe and secure country is positioning Canada positively in the global economy. 

 

Find out why Canada is so “investable” from a veteran of Bay Street who started analyzing the markets in 1963!  Having seen many business and economic cycles, Dr. Michael Graham will reassure you that over 150 years the markets have and will sort things out – and why proven disciplines like balance, diversification and quality will more than ever deliver the superior longer-term returns today’s investors should be confidently aspiring to. 

 

Find out why your clients will want to embrace our heightening world attraction in this insightful session.

 

DR. MICHAEL GRAHAM


EMBRACING YOUR LEADERSHIP POTENTIAL:  
ONWARD ENTHUSIASTICALLY IN AN INCREDIBLE ERA OF CHANGE


As Chairman and CEO of AGF Management Ltd. Blake Goldring has been in a leadership role for one third of the company’s 60 years.  In that time he has forged growth and expansion of the business through numerous business cycles, recessions, financial crises and enormous growth In this session he will share his perspectives on the current state of global turmoil and bring important context to the future of financial advice at the crossroads of change.

BLAKE GOLDRING
CEO & Chairman
AGF Management Ltd.


CONFERENCE CLOSE:  TAKING IT TO THE STREET

 

Announcing the Winner of the Free Attendance Draw - DAC 2018 and closing comments from the Programming Director and President of Knowledge Bureau, Evelyn Jacks.

 

BROUGHT TO YOU BY:

EVELYN JACKS,

Founder and President


KNOX MOUNTAIN PRIVATE HIKING TOUR & BOXED PICNIC LUNCH

 

If you are staying on after the conference, consider joining us for an exhilarating hiking experience up the Apex trail on Knox Mountain. The hike takes about 2 hours at leisurely pace as it leads to eventually reach the upper lookout. The local and knowledgeable Guides are happy to help you explore the area, teach you about the flora, fauna and history of our homeland. Be sure to bring your camera, the views are spectacular!

 

First Come, First Served!
Spots are limited so be sure to register early!
Cost: $110 per person+ GST

 

Suggested Itinerary:
1:30 Depart the Delta Grand Resort
1:45 Gourmet picnic lunch & Guided Hike.
4:15 Depart Knox Mountain